PST to CET

How far apart Los Angeles and Berlin really are

The difference between these two zones is not a single number. Across 2026 it takes 2 different values — 8 hours, 9 hours — because both Los Angeles and Berlin observe daylight saving, but they do not switch on the same dates.

Note the short periods above (8 Mar–28 Mar, 25 Oct–31 Oct). That is the window where one zone has already changed its clocks and the other has not. It is the single most common source of missed meetings between these two places, because the offset people carry in their heads is briefly wrong by an hour.

Working-hours overlap

There is no overlap between a 09:00–17:00 day in Los Angeles and the same window in Berlin — the zones are 9 hours apart. A recurring call has to sit in one side's early morning or late evening, so the fair arrangement is usually to alternate which side absorbs it.

Why you should store the zone, not the offset

Because the gap between Los Angeles and Berlin changes during the year, an offset recorded as a number is only correct until the next transition. Store America/Los_Angeles and Europe/Berlin — the IANA identifiers — alongside any time a user entered locally. The identifier carries the zone's entire history of rule changes, so a date from 1995 converts with the rules that were in force in 1995.

Internally, keep the instant as a Unix timestamp. The epoch value is identical in Los Angeles, Berlin and everywhere else; the zone is applied only at the edges, when a human needs to read it. The current Unix timestamp is at the top of this page, and the zones versus offsets guide explains why the distinction bites.